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Peter Kohn

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Meconopsis baileyi x latifolia
« on: December 15, 2016, 08:11:20 AM »
Does anyone know anything about the origin of the seeds offered under this naming on the SRGC seedlist last year ? I posted a query on the SRGC forum but received no response and an internet trawl only feeds me back to that forum post. I did raise plants and then forgot about them until I spotted them among the baileyis and Lingholms as something different. Slightly greyer foliage than ordinary baileyi but otherwise similar. One plant is now in my tiny back garden meconopsis plot and, for what it is worth, it has gone back more slowly than the type baileyi next to it. We also bought a 'blue meconopsis' hybrid from Elizabeth MacGregor last summer which is also in the same area and looks quite similar in leaf and in its response to frost. Too soon to equate them in any way otherwise and more will be revealed if they overwinter successfully and flower next Spring.

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Re: Meconopsis baileyi x latifolia
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2016, 09:19:11 AM »
do you have any pictures Peter? It may help your query....Matt
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Re: Meconopsis baileyi x latifolia
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2016, 05:01:38 PM »
Yes I think so, Mat, though I'm really hoping to track down the seed donor.  If I can't do that then I may need to wait for a full season of growth next year and try to document the various stages. If I find the pictures of the young plants I will post them.
I have to correct what I said about the dieback. It is a seedling of M. 'Evelyn' that I planted in the garden which was superficially similar to the Elizabeth Macgregor plant. As of today, the dying leaves of Evelyn are comaratively golden whilst the EM plant is more silvery.

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Re: Meconopsis baileyi x latifolia
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2016, 08:26:31 AM »
I think that you will find that the plants from Elizabeth Macgregor will be different to any seedlings arising from M. 'Evelyn'. The plants from E.M come from a fertile blue given to her many years ago. The resulting plants are variable.

I too have young plants arising from M. 'Evelyn' and am growing them to see how similar they are to the parent plant. and to each other.  Please keep your plants for observation only. It would be best not to distribute any seeds from such plants as M. 'Evelyn'. This meconopsis, although fertile, should only be propagated by division to maintain the true form. 

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2016, 10:04:55 AM »
Could Carole and Ian Bainbridge be able to advise where the donation came from. Not sure if they keep records but must be worth a try if you have not already done so.

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2016, 06:45:33 PM »
No, they don't have records. I did check with them. 

Yes, I'm quite clear that the Elizabeth Macgregor plant is different from the 'Evelyn' seedling. The four 'Evelyn' seedlings I am looking after all look very uniform at this stage and, as I mentioned, are going back loking quite different from the E Mac plant.

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2018, 01:39:18 PM »
Are you asking about the nominally baileyi x latifolia plants ?  The plant at home has survived the winter. It is a late season so new leaves are still small (surprisingly plants are much smaller here than in either the Sheffield Botanic Garden or my allotment). The young foliage is clearly different from either Linghilm, baileyi or the hybrid from Elizabeth MacGregor. I will beed to check at the Botanic Gardens but I think that the three baileyi x latifolia plants at SBG all behaved monocarpically.

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2018, 02:10:16 PM »
This is a (rather poor) picture of the flowers of this oddity. Lovely pale 'Wedgewood  Blue' colour distinct from all my other forms of baileyi. There was a single initial flower followed by the four currently flowering in a tight cross. Many more buds down the stem.

Well although the Meconopsis site looks exactly like the SRGC site, it isn't automatically downsizing the way I have just achieved on the SRGC site. I will try posting the picture there and see if is works. If it does, I will report back and then nyone interested can see the picture there.

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Re: Meconopsis baileyi x latifolia
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2018, 02:18:45 PM »
Picture has posted on the SRGC website. If my smartphone starts to behave itself I will take a picture of the reverse and post that too.

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Re: Meconopsis baileyi x latifolia
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2018, 04:53:12 PM »
Hi Peter, sorry about the picture issue. It’s been going on for a while and I am struggling to get time to resolve it. Our host recently updated their servers and this was the start of it. I hope to get to grips with it as soon as I can. Sorry Matt
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2018, 11:29:16 AM »
Hope it isn't too much of a headache for you

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Re: Meconopsis baileyi x latifolia
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2018, 06:32:45 PM »
Hi Peter and all members. I think i have the picture issue resolved now and tehy should all be available again over the next few days.

sorry for the inconvenience
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